Category: Better Trading

  • Trade Execution and Trade Fill Prices (Part-2)

    Yesterday we closed a directional SPX Butterfly Spread for +29.7% excluding commission. But individual gains vary. Why?

    In the previous post on Trade Execution and Trade fill prices, I mentioned about the fills used for P&L calculation. However, if you were to review your own performance, there is one thing that can make a big difference on the returns you get. And it is your brokerage commission.

    Let’s start with a real example from one of the OPN member-

    I entered this trade on Sept 17th, @ 1.85 & exited today for 2.35 . I had 6 contracts 1110 -1410=$300 profit less 74 $ commissions== $226= +19.7% gain.

    Background:  We entered into an SPX butterfly spread at $1.85 (member’s actual fill prices). We had a GTC order to close the butterfly at $2.70 credit. The mid prices went to as high as $2.90 but some members couldn’t get a fill on their GTC order. Then I sent a revised price of $2.40+/-. Finally, remaining members were able to close it for $2.35 to $2.45 credit. Thus generating double digit gains on this butterfly spread for 7-8 days holding.

    Now let’s review the results of the same trade-

    OP Income NewsletterA Butterfly Spread has 4 option leg, thus opening and closing involves 8 contracts. In the above example, member scaled it to 6 butterfly and thus overall 48 contracts (for opening/closing).

    1. Assuming $1.54/contract on average, above member paid $74 in commissions.
    2. If someone was using IB’s published rates @$0.70, the cost will be $33.6. An additional gains of $40.4!!
    3. Using e-option ($3 min and $0.10/contract), the cost will be $10.8. An additional gains of $63.2!!

    (This is not a recommendation to use any mentioned brokers. It is just an example to show benefits of the low cost. There are other things you should find out about your broker before you decide only on commissions e.g. order routing, safety of your assets, etc.)

    Above example was for 6 Butterfly spreads only. Imagine if you were trading a million dollar portfolio on Butterfly spreads? Every single cent extra you pay, will result into thousands of dollars profit gone. Think about it for a minute !!

    The more you pay in commissions, the more your trade needs to work.

    That leads to the discussion on selecting a broker.

    I published a post about who is the best options broker. It is a very comprehensive post that can help you in finding out who meets your need perfectly.

    The commissions is a cost of doing “option trading” business. Just like any other business, if cost is out of proportion, pretty soon the business will run out of steam.

    If you are selecting a broker because you like the User Interface (U/I) and all the NON TRADE EXECUTION related things, then recognize that factor in your P&L statement and don’t confuse the profitability with respect to commissions only. You are also paying for the U/I and for other frills. 

    If you are paying anything above $0.80/contract (no minimum) and should you still need frills like charts, option analytics etc, do write to me. I will try my best to help you find ways to reduce your brokerage commissions.

    What’s next?

    Many members dislike negotiating a trade price with market makers. Over the next few parts, I shall explain why should you care. I shall also provide you a framework to evaluate whether or not you should negotiate. Stay tuned.

    Should you have any questions or would like me to cover anything in particular, either post your views in the comments section or do send me an e-mail -> Ask@OptionPundit.com

    Trade carefully, Trade profitably, OP

  • Trade Execution and Trade Fill Prices (Part-1)

    Yesterday we initiated a Pre-earning trade on LULU and by the end of the day, the trade was up +70% vs. lowest mid prices, +32% vs. maximum suggested price and +15% vs. actual member’s fills that OPN uses to track its P&L.

    Think about it for a minute. +70%, +32%, +15%? All within a day! For the same trade, and for the same members! How could this be possible? this triggered a long chain of discussion with members. Naturally, the conversations kicks-in whenever there is a “missed” profitable trade vs. when there is a filled trade for cheaper prices (vs. trade idea). Thus this triggered me to start writing a series of posts on fills and trade execution to share my experiences and provide some insights on this valuable area.

    I am often asked how to get good fill prices? What kind of fill prices are used for calculating OP Income Newsletter’s performance? Should we chase for better prices? What is the maximum (debit) or minimum (credit) we should aim for? What if I am filled on half and not filled on another half etc.?

    Almost 6 years ago, OptionPundit introduced “forum” concept for the newsletter members and took ACTUAL median fill prices posted by MEMBERs to calculate respective trade’s P&L. unlike others who were using theoretical fills or their own fills. We were so confident of our trades that we opened us ourselves to member’s scrutiny all the time.

    Why was it important?

    An author will always have an advantage over subscribers. He knows the underlying, he knows the set-up he has in his mind, he knows what is he looking for and may choose the best time to enter. He can also easily front run members and use the best fills to calculate the performance. By using trade fills prices from Members, it becomes completely transparent and then P&L are more realistic P&L.

    This LULU trade is a great example. Using mid prices before sending trade idea, I can show a +70% gains vs. actual performance of +15% based on our member’s fills. We choose +15% as that’s what reflect real trade performance of those who are “following”.

    There is one more check-

    Is the author entering his orders after a trade idea was sent or before that?

    If it is before a trade idea is sent (for theta/ vega positive trades especially), members will almost never be able to match his performance. Soon after the trade idea is sent, members will queue up their orders affecting the prices/volatilities and in most cases members will end up paying more for such trades. And it was this reason that we introduced “paid” waiting list concept to limit the number of subscribers.

    And of course, the forum also helps in terms facilitating learning. We have since then launched 4 series of “Real lessons from Real Traders in Real Time” series.

    Forum was also important as we open up ourselves to member’s scrutiny, all the time. It also provides an opportunity for members to review their fills vs. other member’s fill; they can review how their broker is performing vs. other member’s broker. They can review all the comments that were made, all the adjustments, all the reasons behind those.

    So how does OPN share the trade idea-

    OP Income NewsletterSell to open (– %) – RUT Iron Condor Oct 2013
    – Sell to Open RUT Oct Call 1080
    – Buy to open RUT Oct Call 1090
    – Sell to Open RUT Oct Put 945
    – Buy to Open RUT Oct Put 935

    Total credit: $3.20 +/- (mid as of this writing)
    Pls don’t accept credit < $3.05

    Additional details -> — spread per 10k and thus — % of the portfolio. Please don’t increase allocation beyond — % of the capital if portfolio is > $75K. For portfolio > $100K — . This is slightly short delta trade. We’ll adjust when —.

    And once members start posting their fills on the forum, we’ll use median fills to track its performance.

    Though Mr Market doesn’t owe us anything. Market makers/participants will do what’s best in their interest even though you have a fair price request. There is no magic bullet. Trade fills are more of an art vs. exact science. In the next part, I shall share with you my experiences on what you could do to obtain better trade fills.

    Should you have any questions or would like me to cover anything in particular, either post your views in the comments section or do send me an e-mail -> Ask@OptionPundit.com

    Trade carefully, Trade profitably, OP